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LRx3: Tinder, Bumble, and TanTan (with screenshots)

LRx3: Tinder, Bumble, and TanTan (with screenshots)


At any time because the arrival of dating/hookup applications like Tinder, a large amount of folks have been asking me questions about how to do well on this kind of apps. I didn’t use them. I didn’t like the idea of them. I thought they were dumb. I continue to think they’re dumb, but I’m pushing myself out of my comfort and ease zone by diving into them and finding out how to use these apps and to thrive on them.

Why do I feel they are dumb? Very well, it’s no top secret that I prefer a texting philosophy of keeping matters brief and to-the-issue. There are way much too many uncontrollable variables when it comes to texting, but when you satisfy persons confront-to-experience, you can established up exact frames, microcalibrate, forecast subcommunicated intentions, and subcommunicate a slew of items that you normally would not be equipped to subcommunicate by way of text. When you are confined to JUST texting as the only indicates of interaction, you are seriously handicapped in regards to anything at all involving seduction.

I can stroll up to a woman in genuine daily life and just say “Hi” even though subcommunicating tons of indicators that exude self confidence and radiate appeal (all very consciously completed at first but next-nature to me at this stage) and it will get the job done just great. If I just say “Hi” in excess of text I will not ever get a reaction. That just feels wrong to me.

Also, just before reading through any additional, make sure you take note that it is often, always, usually far better to fulfill women by “approaches” in genuine daily life as a substitute of assembly them on the world-wide-web or any applications. Don’t make it possible for oneself to press oneself even further into a comfort zone of NOT speaking to girls in actual everyday living. If you do this text-dependent stuff far more than you speak to women in genuine daily life, your competencies will suffer for it. Only start out doing this variety of stuff after you have achieved a place of acquiring pretty minor to no fear of chatting to gals facial area to face.

It is also truly worth noting that I went for high-quality around quantity in my endeavors so considerably with these apps. I did not find to maximize the amount of lays I could get I in fact handed off a variety of alternatives for satisfies and lays that I know I would not have been much too content with. I sought authentic rapport right before attempting to meet up with somebody and permitted communication to stale out if I wasn’t really experience it for any reason.

In advance of we get to my real Lay Reports, let us speak about my profile.

I have not established up an optimum profile. I’m not done experimenting with that. I’m at present utilizing a profile method that only works at times, but it works kinda well when it does. For that reason, I suggest from performing specifically what I did for my profile:

  • I applied 2 pics. My guide was a trendy photo that confirmed only 50 % my facial area. The second photograph was a incredibly mediocre shirtless gymnasium selfie (I have been lifting for approx. 1 12 months).
  • My profile was just one sentence that consisted of two pretty opposite issues: one masculine and one feminine issue. Please do not use my correct sentence it’s anything that genuinely expresses who I am and it would be inauthentic for an individual to just copy it word-for-phrase, and I also do not want it to ever turn out to be a saturated factor that lots of dudes conclusion up saying. The components goes: “I like (insert some thing masculine listed here) and (insert anything female right here).” E.g. “I like quickly cars and trucks and caramel macchiatos.” The sentence I applied in my profile was, “I like bourbon and cute shit.”

I did not get a large amount of matches mainly because I have a natural disadvantage on this system in the first place I’m Asian, you can effortlessly believe that I’m quick, and I definitely never have design seems to be. However, the unusual periods that I did matches, I got them simply because:

  • My initial photo was trendy so it had at least some attractiveness (If you’re not trendy, get ladies to choose out your dresses). While it didn’t truly display adequate of my experience, indicating that it could not be very good adequate for females to want to swipe suitable just on that photograph on your own, it built some women curious enough to check out the rest of my profile, catching some of their notice with my 1-sentence profile text.
  • The profile text of getting just one sentence with 2 opposite factors in it was amusing since it entails an unexpected mix. It also created me stand out since there’s an factor of staying a lot more protected in my masculinity by admitting that I preferred a little something usually “feminine.” It hints at fearlessness if you exhibit an apathetic attitude toward patriarchal norms. At the very same time the sentence rooted me in a masculine identity so that I’m not found as in fact female.
  • I truly feel like I received more matches with just just one sentence in my profile than with any more time profiles.
  • Every female will convey to you that placing up a shirtless health club selfie is a lousy strategy. Having said that, I have gotten much better outcomes just after placing it up. I’ve even gotten girls who I’ve currently matched with having more initiative to converse with me following I had place it up.

The superior: I can see myself applying these applications to discover new partners on a pretty typical foundation without owning to go away household as much.
The terrible: I can certainly uncover and seduce hotter ladies in authentic lifetime than individuals I match with on these apps. The most popular girls I’ve seduced from serious lifestyle would for sure immediately swipe still left on me on Tinder.
The hideous: I acquired stood up the moment. That is the worst matter that happened. Not also terrible if you ask me. The bots have been much more aggravating.
The applications: TanTan, Bumble, and Tinder.
Companion applications: BlueFlame (additional on this later)

The Lays:

TanTan

TanTan is an app generally employed by Chinese people today. It is China’s version of Tinder. I sought an Asian-only variety of Tinder generally since of my particular tastes I like Asian ladies improved than other individuals. Also, getting an Asian man, the the vast majority of white girls would swipe still left on me and most of my matches on Tinder finished up being Asian anyway. Might as very well go closer to the source, proper?

I acquired a ton more matches on right here than I did on Tinder, but I could hardly keep a dialogue with a great deal of these women because of language obstacles. I never know Chinese. A ton of them also lived also considerably away. The amount of people employing this app is considerably smaller in my spot than the quantity of men and women working with Tinder.

Just one working day I matched with a non-Chinese lady (uncommon on TanTan) I will connect with HB BarelyLegal simply because she experienced just turned 18. Here are direct screenshots of our dialogue on TanTan:
http://imgur.com/a/ZkITm
I opened with that line for the reason that she also had a profile indicating that she was not Chinese. We ended up both equally various in the same way due to the fact we had been both non-Chinese folks using an app manufactured for Chinese folks.

Proper immediately after that, we took our discussion to WeChat, the Chinese model of WhatsApp/Kik. It’s normally significant to just take your conversations outside of regardless of what app you fulfilled them on, preferably with a mobile phone variety so that you can just text right. For TanTan it is almost customary to go from there to WeChat as soon as you’ve set up some rapport. In this scenario, we only exchanged mobile phone numbers after we experienced now expended a evening jointly mainly because we have been communicating just high-quality over WeChat in any case.

I just cannot present the complete dialogue we experienced over WeChat immediately after that since it’s just way much too significantly content, but right here are some highlights:
http://imgur.com/a/WiCA6 (Warning: Over 200 photos)

Most of you will not want to go via all 200+ of those screenshots, so here’s a TLDR:

I built some a lot more rapport and uncovered out she’s a virgin. I have a “no virgins” rule because sleeping with virgins is a bad notion for several motives, but that is a matter for another dialogue. Nevertheless, I previously felt some rather substantial attraction to HB BarelyLegal (each appears to be like and temperament) at this position so I decided to make an exception and continue to pursue her. I do not advise likely soon after virgins.

Since of her relative inexperience with males, and due to the fact of what I felt like I wanted for myself at that place in my daily life, I took items pretty gradually with her and texted her for upwards of 3 months really a great deal every single working day prior to meeting up. I took the time to develop a pretty significant amount of Several emotions which include tons of convenience. Main themes to take away from the screenshots: Sexualization, Body command, Handling expectations, Making her experience risk-free, Passion, Enjoyable/humor, Uninhibited/unapologetic expressiveness, Behavioral shaping by means of rewards and reciprocity, Decreasing any possible Anti-Slut Defense, Dominant main role, Upcoming projections, and very in depth Logistics.

THE Fulfill:

All in all it felt like I was adhering to the ideas from my Initial Day Blueprint.

This was the first time either of us experienced achieved any one from a courting/hookup application, and the initially position we fulfilled was at the hotel space I booked for us. YOLO, appropriate? If you go as a result of my WeChat screenshots, you are going to get a pretty fantastic strategy on how I organized this.

The very first issue I do when I see her is give her a significant bear hug. It was very uncomfortable. Miscalibrated. Do not overdo the greeting like I did. Will make me cringe when I imagine about it again. A light-weight hug is a substantially improved way to go.

I sat her down and informed her a little something along the strains of, “Look. I do not want you to get the feeling that you owe me something just mainly because I’m spending for all of this tonight. I do not want you to truly feel any tension for anything, both. I’m generally expending revenue on myself in this article because I’m having fun with myself no issue what comes about.” I felt that it was significant to strengthen this frame due to the fact of the substantial gap in knowledge. She essentially felt negative that I was paying for everything, though, since she’s a pretty sweet lady. This undoubtedly was not about me being a sugar daddy or her liking me just for the reason that of dollars or just about anything of the form.

Quickly following that very little speech, we left to go to our reservation at a Burmese cafe. It was the first time either of us experienced tried out Burmese food items. Not undesirable. A bit too salty, even though. Conversation was flowing just high-quality just like conversations we’ve had more than WeChat. The only distinction was that we ended up both of those a small additional anxious (I guess she was substantially more nervous) given that it was the first time both of us ended up assembly anyone in these situation.

It’s really worth noting that, even if I was a very little anxious due to my possess inexperience of meeting ladies from the internet (applications), I stayed as calm and peaceful as I could. Bear in mind: she feels what you feel.

All over this full time I was making positive to proceed kino in this article and there. After dinner we drove off to see a motion picture at the theater. When I was driving I held her hand. When observing the film I was quick to raise the separator amongst our seats and put my arm all-around her. I was pretty substantially performing what I commonly do for film dates. I retained the kino personal with interlocked fingers and everything and I kissed her on the cheek.

It’s commonly a superior idea to escalate additional than that when you’re receiving sensitive-feely at the films but I could undoubtedly pay for to acquire my time supplied my situation. And I wasn’t getting my time thanks to any worry or hesitation it was to savor the moment and to create both additional tension and more comfort. In most predicaments, nonetheless, you’ll want to go a lot quicker and lock in that mutual physical intimacy sooner. It all depends on the condition and you will know when to do what with extra expertise (calibration).

We went again to our lodge space and begun earning out. I escalated points incredibly slowly and gradually but intensely although creating tons of consolation. We didn’t get substantially rest. I’ll go away the rest to your imagination.

The greatest items to acquire away from this are likely: the virtue of getting affected person, not determined, and absolutely experiencing the minute. I make a position of experiencing whatsoever intimacy I have with a female whether it be sexual intercourse or just a pleasant discussion exactly where we join on a tiny amount. I savor that shit in the existing minute so that I really don’t get distracted by any other agenda that may set me “in my head” or make me determined in any way. I hold all my expressions of motivation as getting “wanty” fairly than needy.

Bumble

If you did not presently know, Bumble is just like Tinder besides you simply cannot information the women very first. They have to message you just after matching or else the match disappears immediately after 24 several hours. Some of you may think that this is wonderful mainly because you have no force to arrive up with the opening line. You may well assume that you don’t have to acquire the initiative, so you imagine you can just be lazier. Effectively, you’re improper. Positive, the females on Bumble could be a minor extra proactive (if they information you at all), but you nonetheless have to use the very same primary conversational competencies as you would any where else or the interaction will fall flat.

It is also well worth noting that discussions about textual content and apps like this can slide flat for any rationale, any time. And occasionally there is almost nothing you can do about it. Be great with this and hold an abundance mentality AT ALL Situations.

I was not attracted to most of the matches I got on Bumble. At the time of this composing, Bumble does not have a restrict on how many profiles you can “like,” so I just mindlessly swiped correct on each and every single profile though doing other shit so that I could essentially split-test what I put in my profile.

My initially match was this truly incredibly hot blonde (no idea how that happened with the shitty profile I was making use of at the time) that I talked to incredibly briefly right before mentioning that I was allergic to cats and she never spoke to me yet again after that. I guess she genuinely likes cats. But, like, damn bruh. I like cats, too, but I simply cannot support that I’m allergic.

I inevitably did match with and converse to anyone I discovered exciting: a powerlifter/bikini competitor that I shall call HB Competitor. She was a great deal additional ahead than I’m employed to and you may be able to see how we’re equally kiiinda taking the lead:
http://imgur.com/a/QyoVL
I basically identified that conversation really unexciting, but I considered it was tremendous amazing that she was a competitor and I’ve normally assumed that women who enjoy canine are excellent.

Our conversation over text experienced a lot of uninteresting stuff at initial (additional common getting-to-know-a-stranger sort of concerns and particulars like in which we’ve lived and shit like that), but here’s in which I took a sharp switch to make factors a lot more exciting:
http://imgur.com/a/KtaU5
A tiny out of the blue, I brought up a theme she described in our conversation in the Bumble application (adult males staying intimidated by her) that is actually attention-grabbing to me. I do that a great deal I abruptly adjust the topic for the duration of a discussion to whatever catches my desire additional in the instant. She sort of went in a diverse way from there but I went with it and included my very own themes (sexualization) to it in a way that complemented her themes like any great conversationalist would. From there it didn’t acquire a great deal to secure a meet up with. I guess she was inspired by my silliness to be in a spontaneous mood.

It is also well worth noting that, at the time I was speaking to her, I really was utilizing Bumble just to obtain someone to watch that film with and I genuinely was neat with owning nothing at all than more that. I’m generally awesome with whatever. Be awesome. Do not be desperate. It assists make issues happen.

And all you persons who mentioned that Batman V Superman was undesirable have waaaaay too large expectations. Ben Affleck was THE Greatest BATMAN Ever. He was in fact frightening to criminals like Batman’s intended to be. I fuckin enjoy Batman and now I enjoy Ben Affleck.

I’m also sorry to HB BarelyLegal (former LR) for not viewing Batman V Superman with her. I know you are looking at this <3 <3 <3 and I had no idea that you couldn’t see this with your other friends and I totally would have watched it with you if I had known. :(
P.S. plz send real nudes instead of just those silly selfies with the eggplant emoji stickers all over your face (though I did enjoy those, too) ;)
Update: she sent nudes after seeing this lol

THE MEET:

I picked her up at her place, gave her a light hug, and we fluff-talked during the ride to the theater, but we stopped at a random pub to grab a quick, small bite to eat where I took the opportunity to talk more openly with her. She was taken aback by exactly what I do as a “dating coach,” pretending to not like the idea of my whole pickup artist thing. She was inevitably drawn in by my irresistible sincerity and honesty, however. She just wasn’t used to such openness and, as many women would, she likely found it to be both exciting and refreshing.

I did my usual thing at the movies with her and she was very turned on. We went back to her place. Even though she lifts and sculpts her body for competitions, her tits were still pretty big. :) Fun times.

The sex with HB Competitor was olympic. Might have something to do with the fact that we’re both pretty fuckin fit. However, neither of us contacted each other again after that. I don’t know about her, but for some reason I just wasn’t feeling enough of a connection to want to see her again.

I have a feeling she got exactly what she wanted out of this, though. During one of our conversations, she admitted to me that she had this desire to find some “jerk” and just use him. I guess that was me lol… Leave her better than you found her, I guess…

Tinder

We all know what Tinder is, but in conjunction with Tinder I used a different app called BlueFlame (currently for iOS only at the time of this writing). If you use Tinder, you need to download BlueFlame. And then you need to upgrade to the Pro version. Cheap one-time payment. It’s worth it.

With it, you can mass-like and also see who has already liked you. You can also see more details of your matches such as when they were last active on Tinder, when you matched with them, etc. This is all very relevant information if you want to organize your matches and see who you need to talk to at what times. The “Who Liked Me” function give you greater control over split-testing your profile. You can also change your location if you want to warm up some matches before traveling or moving, but I have yet to try this.

I’m sure there’s a similar app for Android but you’ll have to ask someone else.

Even though I have the option of mass-liking with BlueFlame, I don’t have Tinder Plus so my daily “likes” are still limited, so I actually swipe left A LOT on Tinder. This leads to fewer but hotter matches. Let me tell you about this fuckin sexy mixed girl I shall call HB Barista. She’s a barista.

I actually opened with something really lame (Hello hello how r u) and I have no idea why it worked. I saw her Tinder matches. Literally hundreds of hot guys. Like wtf. She can’t even remember why she replied to me in the first place THANKS HB BARISTA.
http://imgur.com/a/tUF33
I asked what her hair looked like because her photos showed her with a couple different hairstyles. It was a pretty lackluster conversation but sometimes keeping things simple is the best way. By the way, always get the girl’s number if you’re doing a real life approach instead of just giving her yours. Doesn’t seem to matter which way it goes in apps like Tinder, though.

The topic of height keeps coming up because the internet told me it was important. Well… it’s not important. At least not to literally every girl I’ve matched with so far (plenty of them hot including all 3 of these girls). Or maybe I’m just charismatic enough for girls to not give a shit about it. Btw I learned that I’m actually 5’5″ because at 5’6″ HB Barista is actually taller than me FeelsBadMan lol jk who cares

Anyway here’s where we continued via text:
http://imgur.com/a/9Hh7R
One of the qualifiers I usually use is to screen what kind of drinker a girl is. I usually don’t trust people who say that they don’t drink because it tells me that they might be scared of being honest around other people. When I started talking about alcohol she opened up A LOT and that gave me the green light to escalate things quickly toward a meet.

Most guys wouldn’t be able to handle such fast sexualization in a conversation but I remained very open-minded and acted like she was talking about something very day-to-day while expressing a non-needy interest at the same time. We were both being so chill so it comes to no surprise that she was immediately open to the idea of meeting up.

THE MEET:

I parked in front of her place, greeted her with a light hug, and we walked to the bar she mentioned as we chatted a bit. Conversation flowed well the whole night. Not much kino while walking there aside from touching the small of her back a couple times.

Sitting at the end of the bar, we had a couple of drinks while talking about a whole bunch of stuff. Mostly about things regarding her that I’m curious about. We share lots of laughs. I looked down at her feet. They’re pointed toward me. Good. I lean in closer and closer, scooting myself closer and closer, and touching her hands, arms, and eventually legs more and more. I’m triangular gazing and building tons of sexual tension. She tells me that one of the reasons she was willing to meet me was that I actually had good grammar. At one point I abruptly change the topic of whatever we’re talking about and say, “You know what I feel like doing with you?”

“What?” she asks with a charming smile.

“I feel like cuddling with you while watching something,” I told her. She replied with a “That sounds good” or something along those lines. I can never remember the exact words girls use when they’re basically saying “Yes” to my escalations like this.

We leave the bar and walk back toward her place. I exchange a few friendly words with this random homeless woman trying to talk to us. We run away. We keep chatting and build more rapport as we hold hands. We get to her door, but I can’t come in because she’s room-sharing with 3 other people or some shit. Damn. I should have scoped out the logistics sooner instead of just assuming we could go back to her place. Luckily, there are like 3 motels/hotels on the same street we were on.

We stop by each motel/hotel but there are no vacancies in any of them. What the fuck man it’s a Tuesday. Why aren’t there any vacancies on a Tuesday night? Whatever. I open up the Yelp app and search for motels in the next city over. Good thing this amazing technology exists. I drive us to a motel that has a room available. It was only like a 10 minute drive away. Very fortunate. Wouldn’t want her Buying Temperature to die out.

We get to the parking lot of the motel and I tell her with a smirk, “Just because we’re here doesn’t necessarily mean that anything’s going to happen. All I know is that I want to cuddle with you,” to which she instantly replied with agreement. That’s basically my LMR vaccine.

We stayed up all night and all morning. She completely drained my balls and I left the next morning with a hickey on my neck the size of Mississippi. I got no sleep, no more spunk in my junk, a huge-ass hickey, and I had to meet HB BarelyLegal right after for a movie we both wanted to see.

I texted HB BarelyLegal and explained the situation: that I had the biggest hickey ever and that I wouldn’t be able to have sex with her when we met because I didn’t sleep and my balls were drained. She was so understanding and we had a nice chill movie date with just making out in the theater. She’s so fuckin sweet <3 :) <3

I also still talk to HB Barista and I’m getting the feeling that she’s totally using me for my body but that’s OK I guess.

Other Notable Conversations:

Sand Art:
http://imgur.com/a/MnGkb
Tinder match. We had scheduled to meet a certain day but we had to reschedule for a different day due to logistical problems. I know she would have come out to meet me if we could meet on the day we had originally planned, and I know she would have come out to meet me if I kept up the texting momentum between that day and the day we rescheduled for, but I didn’t. That was my mistake. She flaked. Still a cool text exchange there, though, huh?

Breaking the language barrier:
http://imgur.com/a/Uc3vD
Chinese TanTan match. One of the first girls I started talking to on any of these apps. That whole conversation happened all in the same day. She ended up being wayyyy too far away for me to even consider meeting just off the cuff but we made a great connection anyway and she sent me nudes that I totally whacked it to. I also learned that Chinese people apparently refer to their vaginas as their “little sister.” Huh. We talked more after this and she sent me even more nudes later :)

Failed friend-zone attempt:
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Tinder match. We met for only 1 short date so far and we’re planning to meet again soon. Claims that she wasn’t looking for anything but friends on Tinder. She’s used to immediately friendzoning guys but I guess I’m pretty much immune to being friendzoned at this point. It’s adorable how she’s confusing herself :)





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